The Heart of Discipleship In Homeschooling w/ David and Leslie Nunnery

David And Leslie Nunnery (00:00)
Am I smart enough? Am I patient enough? Am I, you know, am I able to teach high school? All of these. well, basically, yeah. So all of these, you get very focused on what you can do. Am I And like you said, no, but God is

Aaron Smith (00:04)
Yeah, no. That’s my answer.

Aaron Smith (00:17)
Welcome to the Marriage After God podcast. I’m your host, Aaron Smith. And today I’m joined by David and Leslie Nunnery. They’re founders of the Teach Them Diligently Homeschool Conference. Yes, this is the same conference that Jennifer and I attended earlier this year. So we’ve talked about it quite a few times already. But before we start, don’t forget to hit that like button and subscribe wherever you’re watching or listening. Also, please do us a huge favor and leave us a review and a comment. We really love reading those.

Lastly, if you would like to support what we do here, please visit shop.marriageaftergod.com and grab a copy of our newest book titled The Marriage Gift, 365 Prayers for Your Marriage. David and Leslie have been married for 27 years with four grown children and two brand new grandbabies. David and Leslie started teaching teach them diligently in 2011, just one year after beginning their own homeschooling journey with a mission to inspire families to prioritize discipleship.

In our conversation, we explore the early years of homeschooling, overcoming feelings of inadequacy and fears of failure when considering homeschooling and the vital mission of discipling our children at home with everything else academics included taking second place. Be sure to check out the show notes for an exclusive discount on registration for their conference and join us now for this powerful and encouraging conversation with David and Leslie Nuttery.

Aaron Smith (01:35)
David and Leslie, welcome to the Mary Jeffery God Pack. I’m so happy to have you guys.

David And Leslie Nunnery (01:39)
Thank you so much for having us here. It’s a joy. Yeah, it’s good to be here.

Aaron Smith (01:43)
Yeah, I’m super excited to talk to you. My wife and I, David, I met you for a few moments. You were gracious enough to chat with me in the foyer at the Teach them Diligent conference this last year and gave me your information to get you on my podcast. I’m super excited to talk to you guys about homeschooling and the conference and all that. We love the conference, by the way. I don’t know if everyone knows what you guys do, but we’ll be getting into that ⁓ before we do. Why don’t we just start with you guys sharing who you are, your names.

family, children, and we’ll start from there.

David And Leslie Nunnery (02:17)
Well, ⁓ David and Leslie Nunnery, ⁓ started Teach Them Diligently. ⁓ Teach Them Diligently has a distinct gospel focus, ⁓ kind of focused on homeschooling. But as you know, Aaron, when you come to the event, ⁓ we talk a lot about marriage and parenting and because so much of your life is taken up by those things. And when you start to homeschool, ⁓

you know, homeschooling is not just an education decision. ⁓ so we felt that ⁓ homeschooling puts a little bit more pressure on marriage and parenting and those relationships. And I actually believe we actually believe that it’s the relationships that are the secret sauce and homeschooling is what makes homeschooling special and makes it really powerful is that you have that opportunity to actually invest in those relationships more.

and strengthen those relationships in many different areas and many different aspects. And ⁓ that’s what we kind of we focus on. And so the majority of the sessions at our events, at least the most popular sessions, ⁓ people show up, they go, yeah, we’re ready for homeschooling. And then like they go to one session that involves teaching math and the rest of the sessions are, you know,

how to love their wives more, how to love their husbands more, what do I do with my child in terms of anger and all these marriage and parenting ⁓ issues. Yeah, we have four children. Actually, they are all grown now. So this is our first year in many, many, many years that we aren’t going back to school. So ⁓ we’re very excited to have just welcomed two grandchildren and

Aaron Smith (04:02)
Amazing.

David And Leslie Nunnery (04:07)
⁓ We have a growing family. It’s really fun making that transition to this new phase of life. ⁓ Not just for our family, but it’s also been really amazing. The doors that God has opened for us to kind of take that rear view mirror that we have and all the things that we’ve learned through the years, sometimes proactively, sometimes through stubbing our toe and try to pass that on to the next generation of parents. So very.

very grateful for the way that God has grown our family and really opened doors. Yeah. So our grandkids are four months old. So they were born within a week of each other. ⁓ what we have found is, that, you know, we all, had our, children fairly close together. We have four kids and that

Aaron Smith (04:43)
that’s awesome.

David And Leslie Nunnery (04:54)
creates a scenario where stuff happens in bunches. like they got married within, had to get married within six months and then now we have two grandkids. which is great.

Aaron Smith (04:58)
Thank you.

I love that.

I’m excited for that season. I’m about eight to 10 years away from that, I would imagine. I mean, you never know, but my oldest is turning 13 this year. So I’m just about to get into the teenage years. So yeah, I know love talking to other couples that are just in the next phase of life. And it gets me excited because I am excited. Actually, this is the first year that I’m like, I’m to be a grandparent one day. And I’m actually getting excited about that. So that’s awesome.

David And Leslie Nunnery (05:12)
Wow.

So fun.

Yeah.

Aaron Smith (05:35)
You guys have been married for how long did you say?

David And Leslie Nunnery (05:38)
I’ll let him answer. Let’s see if we can do it. The pressure, the pressure. Well, we were married in 1998. So 20, 27 years. for all those, know, it, yeah.

Aaron Smith (05:39)
Yeah, you’ll see.

Oh my goodness, that’s so incredible.

you guys didn’t, like you just said, you’re finally for the first time, like being able to look back and at all the things that you’ve learned and implement them. But you guys didn’t start teaching them diligently. Now you started the, what, how many years ago? 10 years ago? 12 years ago?

David And Leslie Nunnery (06:03)
It was 15,

well, was in 2011 is when we started it. We had our first event in 2012. And the irony of that is God called us to do that at the end of our first year of homeschooling. So we didn’t know anything about anything at that point. We were so green, but God, God tends to use people who don’t feel prepared and then he does great things. So we’re very, very grateful for that.

Aaron Smith (06:07)
311, that’s what it

Yeah.

We always talk about this in our book called Marriage After God, which is this podcast was named after it, is it’s all these like little yeses to God. It’s like God’s just looking for us to be obedient and say yes to him. And then he does the work like through us and in us. And he also prepares us and changes us and gives us the things that we need as we go, as long as we’re yielded to him. I just, love that idea because so many people are just in general when it comes to stepping out in faith, doing something

David And Leslie Nunnery (06:37)
Yeah.

Aaron Smith (06:58)
bigger than they think they’re capable of. It often there’s this question of like, I’m not ready for that. I’m not prepared for that. I don’t have enough experience in that. don’t have maybe, but there’s only one way to get it sometimes. And it’s just doing it maybe. So you guys started after your first year of homeschooling, you started this conference and I can easily understand why you would have done that because my wife and I jumping into homeschool, you know, a bunch of years ago now, we had no idea. And it’s not like there was like a

bunch of people that we hang out with. were like, all of us have, all of our friends have similar age kids. So everyone’s figuring out at the same time, like, where do you get curriculum? Where do you, know, how do you, I don’t have a degree. What do I do? How do I get, you know, talk to the state? So I totally get why you would have said we need to do something because there’s other people that have the same questions that we have. Is that kind of how it turned out?

David And Leslie Nunnery (07:50)
You know, we actually started with the discipleship focus. Yeah. I mean, we moved to where we are in Greenville, South Carolina, and we were excited to send our kids to the private school that was here. Matter of fact, it was a big part of the decision of why we moved here was to get our kids into this particular private school and the private school didn’t do anything wrong. It wasn’t like it.

You know, ⁓ we were angry at the principal or a particular teacher or there was a bully or there was woke content or whatever. It, it just purely came down to the Lord just started working on us and we started getting kind of antsy. You know, that happens to you when the Lord’s trying to call you to do something. You start getting really antsy and really uncomfortable. And, ⁓ we realized that.

The best way to disciple our kids was to have them with us all day long. ⁓ There was a pastor that came into a Sunday school class, our Sunday school class, and I don’t even remember much about what the lesson was, but I remember him saying, you reproduce who you are, but you teach what you know. And that has always stuck with me.

⁓ and the immediate response I had to that was if I’m going to reproduce who I am, man, I want my kids around me more. And, I need to, I need to be as involved as I possibly can. I need to be around them as much as possible. And matter of fact, one of the major factors in discipleship is time, you know, how much time do you spend with your kids? And you got to be with somebody you want to disciple. ⁓

And so that’s the way we came to the decision. And then when we started homeschooling, we started to realize that there was a lot of families out there that were thinking about homeschooling is just an education decision and nothing more. it, was, you know, ⁓ how do you get your child into the best colleges? How do they get the best education, ⁓ standardized testing and how good do you, how well can you raise the scores and

All of this, you know, academic type stuff. And there was also this idea of if you homeschool your child, they’re going to turn out. It’s like it’s a checkbox. And that’s just not true. ⁓ You homeschool because it allows you to have the most time with your child. And what you’re called to do is to disciple. I mean, it’s.

The way we phrase it is your home is your Jerusalem. You know, it’s part of the great commission and you need to be with your child in order to disciple them. You can’t send them off to a school and have them at the school longer than they’re actually sleeping at their bed at night. And you’re making your job much harder if you do that. It’s still possible, but you’re making your job much harder.

Aaron Smith (11:07)
Mm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (11:11)
And so that’s the way we kind of approached it and thought about it. We thought about it in terms of our own homeschooling. And then this opportunity arose to start the convention. remember ⁓ just literally walking by Leslie one time and said, well, maybe we should start our own. And like, it’s that easy, you know, let’s snap our fingers and let’s just start our own. But it was the way we kind of thought.

At the time we were young, you know? Well, it was the entire reason that Teach Them Diligently was started was to encourage families to position homeschool correctly. So not to see it as an end in and of itself. I mean, it produces great academics. It produces all of these things. But the bigger thing for a missional family and a Christian family is it gives you amazing opportunities to disciple your children. And so

we started Teach Them Diligently thinking that it was gonna be a one-year adventure to really point people, families to the gospel and towards discipleship. And God had other plans. We’ve been doing it now for this next year will be our 15 years of producing events. He’s grown up our family through this. ⁓ So his plans were clearly bigger than ours. But the whole heart behind Teach Them Diligently from the very beginning was to focus families in on what their call really was within their families.

and to help them use homeschooling as a great tool to accomplish that.

Aaron Smith (12:41)
You guys started I’m just realizing this you guys started to the first year you did your teaching diligent conference was the first year we launched our ministry and so we’ve been yeah with 2012 and Yeah, which is really incredible because our whole Intention from the beginning was not just to share our own journey in marriage But was to point people to the fact that your marriage is also a ministry. So we have very similar ⁓ align alignments in

David And Leslie Nunnery (12:50)
really?

Huh?

Aaron Smith (13:09)
our goals. I just I love that your intention in it’s not just like, let’s have a better schooling system. Let’s have a better schooling experience. It’s discipleship focused. What was the so you said that you were going for a private school. So you already had a concern in your heart about the public school system or about public education, about ⁓ government, you know, controlled education. I have all my own feelings about all these things.

David And Leslie Nunnery (13:37)
Hahaha

Aaron Smith (13:38)
So it sounds like you already had a concern with her, which is why you were going the private school route. I’m imagining. What was, you know, leading up to that, that was giving you that concern as you I’m sure this was happening as your children were getting to the age of having to go to school. What was leading that was the triggers for you there? Like, hey, we should be considering even before thinking about discipleship and homeschool. What was leading to the private school mentality and avoiding the public school system?

David And Leslie Nunnery (13:53)
Yeah.

Yeah, I don’t know that we ever really thought about the public school system. I went to private school. I was fortunate enough to go to Christian schools all the way up. He did not. No, I was public school. And so he knew what was in the public schools. And we just really wanted to protect our children’s hearts as much as we could. what we like our framework at that time was private school was

Aaron Smith (14:08)
Okay.

You too. Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (14:34)
safer for our kids’ hearts than public school. And in a lot of cases, that is true. this is not at all dissing on private schools. ⁓ But as we, like you said, as we got kind of deeper into it, we wanted to be the ones who had the time to invest in the kids’ hearts even more than the head teachers who loved them. It was a great situation that they were in. There’s nothing about that school that we didn’t like.

Aaron Smith (14:35)
Mm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (15:00)
except it didn’t allow us the time that God had given us to invest in them.

Aaron Smith (15:06)
⁓ David, I would imagine you probably thought the same thing I thought, cause I was also raised in public school and I know exactly what public school is like. And I know exactly the kinds of things I got into and the trouble I got into and the conversations I had and the people I hung out with. And so when my kids were, when we were having children and they were getting old enough to go to school, I just, with my wife, I’m like, Hey, like I, I remember public school. I don’t want that for my kids. And so we had, started praying about homeschooling early, early on.

Never thought about private school. was not a, cause I didn’t know anything about private school, but I just knew I didn’t want to do the public school thing.

David And Leslie Nunnery (15:39)
Mm-hmm.

You

know, Aaron, actually, when we were making the decision to send our kid, when they became school age, when our oldest came to be school age, so we were trying to decide what we wanted to do in kindergarten. You know, prior to that, ⁓ we had worked in a youth group and we came out of that experience learning a lot, first of all. If you want to know like basic training,

Like hardcore training for parenting. You need to sponsor or be involved in a youth group. is the best training on all kinds of family dynamics. It’s the best training on the planet, but we actually, you know, came out of that experience thinking anything but homeschool. And that was so like for me, because of me going to public school, public school was off the table.

And then when we were making this decision, again, he was four years old. Homeschool was off the table. So it was kind of like, well, let’s go with the private school model. And we found a really pretty good Christian private school. Again, he was four years old. ⁓ so we didn’t get into, ⁓ you know, all of the different things that are taught, you know, we, we just wanted to make sure that he had a safe place to go.

And we kind of eliminated these other two. And then maybe two, three years later, that’s when the Lord started working on us. And ⁓ we started thinking in terms of where is the best place for us to disciple our child. And that really kind of changed the entire conversation. And Leslie has an entire, you when she tells a story, she’s, when the Lord’s working on her,

What’s happening in the back of her mind is David’s going to think I’m crazy. You know, she has this entire story about that. And then the Lord’s working on me separately. And I’m thinking, maybe I think we need to start homeschooling our kids. And then she comes to me and she says, you know, the Lord’s been working on me. ⁓ I think we should start homeschooling our kids. She’s flinching thinking that I’m going to say, what are you nuts?

Aaron Smith (17:51)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (18:04)
And I’m going, you know, I think the Lord’s been working on me for that as well, which is pretty cool when you think about it, because a lot of things that have been big decisions with Leslie and myself, the Lord kind of has worked on us separately and then we’ll kind of bring it up. And then the other one is like, well, I haven’t been praying exactly that way. And you’re like, wow, okay. You know, I guess the Lord’s in this. isn’t, this isn’t my imagination. The Lord’s actually in this.

Aaron Smith (18:26)
Hmm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (18:35)
⁓ and so that’s kind of how it came about. There’s, there’s some more layers to the story, but that’s like, that’s, that’s a big part of it.

Aaron Smith (18:42)
Hmm.

Well, I love what you’re this idea of how the Lord was speaking to both of you, but you both were also for whatever reason, whatever there was something triggered in you guys of of considering these things, praying through these things individually. And it’s something I want the couples that are listening to this right now to consider is is this hearing from the Lord and both, you know, getting the same answers requires both of you guys pursuing the Lord and looking for those answers and asking God, hey,

What do you want from us for our family? What do you want for us for our kids? And then coming and then not being afraid to say, Hey, what do you think about this? And then if you, cause if you would have just been afraid Leslie, you would never have said anything instead of coming and saying, here’s something in my heart. Where are you at? And then he’s like, actually I’ve been feeling the same thing. My wife and I have experienced this very thing many times. And so Leslie, what was going on in your heart? What was triggering that, that peripheral journey of like, why are we even asking the question?

Or are you even coming to God and saying, what should I be doing?

David And Leslie Nunnery (19:46)
Yeah, yeah. Another element, I think, of what you were just talking about is making sure that as a couple, you’re on the same page as to what your priorities are. We were very, very serious about discipling our children from the very beginning. we, a lot of the structure that we set up in our home, a lot of the way that we prayed all along since they were very, very young,

Aaron Smith (20:00)
That’s real good.

David And Leslie Nunnery (20:15)
was all about bringing our children to Jesus. How can we give them a foundation for their faith? So that was something that we were very much like-minded on. When I started, I really kind of sensing that the Lord was changing my feeling on what we should do about schooling. really, I honestly, I kind of argued with the Lord for a while. I was like, are you sure? Just kind of pushing back because this was such a foreign concept to me.

⁓ but as I prayed about it, knowing that this was important to both me and David. So I didn’t know how he was praying at the time, but I did know that I was praying in line with what we had already agreed was a huge priority. So as the Lord really led me down that path, it, I was in hindsight, I’m not really surprised that God had been working in David’s life as well at the time I was blown away.

⁓ it was because you in the real time, you’re like, wow, this is so incredibly, I can’t believe it. But, but I’ve seen God do this so many times now that looking back, it’s like, of course he was leading David the same way. We had already gotten on the same page. So the fact that this was important to both of us, I shouldn’t be surprised that God who is so good and gracious to his children were leading us both to get to the point where he wanted us to be.

But it starts really back with having conversations missionally with your spouse. What are your priorities? What are your goals? What’s your vision for your family? What are you shooting for? All of those things you’ve got to be regularly conversing about so that both parties know that they’re praying in alignment with each other. Yeah. And, you know, the vision and the mission that we had, it was not from a negative point of view, right? I just want to keep my child out of jail.

You know, that’s kind of a low, a low priority, but also you got to think about it’s not, it’s, it’s not, ⁓ it’s, it’s not the mission. Our mission was not stated in a negative. was stated in a positive. I want my child to serve the Lord when they get older. I want them to always say yes to God. I want them never to reject him. ⁓ okay. So what does that look like?

Aaron Smith (22:13)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (22:42)
And those are the kinds of conversations that we would have. You you have that big goal and then you start having conversations about what that looks like. And so now all of a sudden, if you have a big decision, let’s say like homeschooling, which is comes out of left field, you’re not even expecting it.

The conversation now is being phrased in terms of the mission and vision that you guys have already agreed is what you guys have. And it completely changes the platform for which you’re having that conversation. Well, it also makes, you know, speaking as a wife, if I know that what I am praying about or what I am doing, how I am spending my time, whatever is in alignment with with what we’ve already talked about.

Aaron Smith (23:10)
You

David And Leslie Nunnery (23:30)
I am way more bold. I am way more content. I am way more ⁓ on level ground. It’s so helpful for me to know that I am walking in step with him. ⁓ It’s just, the family runs better that way. So starting there is really, really important for all parties.

Aaron Smith (23:53)
Okay, let’s talk about this. You guys have been digging into this idea of discipling your children and that homeschooling was just a means to that end. It wasn’t the means, but it was a means. It was like, we want this and you’re doing this, this and this already, but this over here, time-wise, it’s a logical progression. It’s like, where’s all the time being spent? If it’s not here being discipled, then it’s there. ⁓

David And Leslie Nunnery (24:05)
It’s a great tool.

Aaron Smith (24:22)
I personally, and I know you guys believe this too, that the home, that Christian parents are the main disciples of their children. We are the husbands of the pastors of their homes. Mothers are also teaching their children that we should be raising them to know Christ. ⁓ It’s not our job to be their savior. That’s Christ’s job. But it’s our job to introduce them to Him and to teach them about Him. It’s where you get that, teach them diligently from that scripture.

⁓ is it in Exodus that you’re on me, Deuteronomy six. And, ⁓ so I, I totally, I’m firmly believe that you guys from, we believe that you had that idea before homeschooling that you want to disciple. So you were already doing that. I would love to, because I want our listeners, cause there’s going to be people that have their children in public school. There’s gonna be people that are having children growing up that are currently thinking about like, what do do? And I just, I love the idea of starting at discipleship regardless of the decision.

David And Leslie Nunnery (24:52)
It’s a Deuteronomy 6.

Yeah. ⁓

Aaron Smith (25:19)
So let’s start with discipleship. Why? Why do you guys think that about your kids and about your home?

David And Leslie Nunnery (25:26)
You know,

parents have the most amazing platform of anyone else with their children. God chose you to parent that child, even the ones that you don’t fully understand, even the ones that are kind of held to you, that child, ⁓ God in his wisdom, put your family together. And therefore he gave you that platform and that position in your child’s life, which is an unbelievable privilege.

Aaron Smith (25:34)
Amen.

David And Leslie Nunnery (25:54)
So no matter what decision you’re making regarding their education, regarding all of these really secondary decisions, your primary mission must be to take any time that you have and make sure that you are missional with it. That does not mean that every conversation is sit down and let’s study the Bible together. ⁓ But it does mean that you’re building relationships. You’re making sure that you’re keeping short.

Aaron Smith (26:16)
Mm-hmm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (26:22)
counts with your kids. You’re not letting there be a wedge that provokes them to anger or, you know, separates your family. You are, ⁓ you’re sharing with them ways that you’re growing. Therefore, you need to be growing in your faith and your walk with God. So all of these things, discipleship is incredibly natural. Deuteronomy 6 that we base our ministry off of is as you walk, as you talk, as you rise up, when you lie down, you know, it’s as you’re doing laundry, as you’re in the grocery stores, you’re taking a ride.

Aaron Smith (26:45)
Yeah, it’s the daily thing.

David And Leslie Nunnery (26:51)
All of these times, these in-between moments are when discipleship is really, really rich if you are looking for those opportunities. So as a parent on mission, you’ve got to recognize that platform and that privilege that you have and then seize those moments that God has given you ⁓ no matter where your kids are to learn their, you know, reading, writing, and arithmetic. Well, and I don’t think the Lord is calling you to be like a super Christian as a parent, right? You don’t have to be perfect.

You don’t have to have a theology degree. You don’t have to be a pastor. You don’t have to have half the Bible memorized. That’s not what the calling is. The calling is to bring your children to Jesus Christ. You know, that’s the direct command from Jesus ⁓ is to bring your children to Jesus Christ. And ⁓ that means that you set up the environment.

around your home, you start making decisions on what am I going to prioritize in my home? ⁓ What are we going to do each day of the week? ⁓ Are we going to study the Bible as a family? That doesn’t mean that you have to do a huge workbook, you know, on talking about family devotions. You don’t have to go out and buy a family, you know, workbook for every single one of your children. You just open the Bible, read a chapter, read a Psalm.

Aaron Smith (28:02)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (28:14)
and then say, what does this mean to you? And then sing a couple of songs and do that most nights of the week. Something as simple as that is family devotions that qualifies and it makes a huge difference on your kids. ⁓ Your kids walking downstairs and they see you praying and they see you with your Bible open in front of you and you’re actually reading it makes a huge impact on your kids. There’s an overflow element.

of discipleship, whereas the Lord teaches you and you just kind of overflow onto your kids. ⁓ There’s all these different elements of discipleship that come to just being a part of a family that has this priority. You can’t hide it, you know, and you can’t fake it. And you say that you’re sorry as a parent every once in a while when you mess up. That’s discipleship as well.

Aaron Smith (28:51)
Yeah.

Yeah, open repentance.

So what you’re explaining is it’s not just the practical of opening the Word of God and praying and doing those things, which is good, but the reality also of living it. I think the biggest detriment to my generation and any kids actually is hypocrisy. know, do what I say, not what I do. And that’s kind of on some level, many of our stories growing up.

David And Leslie Nunnery (29:32)
Mm-hmm.

Aaron Smith (29:39)
seeing our parents say one thing but do another, telling us to be one way but not being it themselves. So what you’re saying is live out your walk with Christ in front of your children. Make it a real, it’s real. And just let them be a part of that, let them see that. So they learn Christ through osmosis. Not just what we say but what they see. That’s a really, really powerful reminder for all of us as parents.

David And Leslie Nunnery (30:01)
Yeah.

Aaron Smith (30:07)
is we are the main disciplers, that our children are the closest neighbors we have, our spouses are the closest neighbors we have. We have other neighbors also, but we should be focused also on the closest ones we have in our homes. So do you have like a specific, I mean, you mentioned some general, like, know, opening the Word of God and, singing some hymns. What’s some of the specifics that you guys did to cultivate discipleship in your home even before homeschooling? Because I know now in homeschooling, the education, all of the

Bibles all incorporated into all of that as well.

David And Leslie Nunnery (30:38)
Yeah,

yeah. One of the first things that we started when the kids were really, really little is ⁓ because we both did have a habit of getting up and having our devotions in the morning, our quiet time with God. ⁓ The Lord really impressed on our heart that when we kind of gathered the kids together for breakfast, sometimes he was there, sometimes he wasn’t. It just kind of varied when he was going off to work. ⁓ But I would share with the kids

every morning what I learned in my devotions. And when they were really little, it was really simple. Obviously, I wasn’t giving them a treatise, but just sharing what I learned in my devotions. As they got older, they wanted to do their own devotions. So whether it be a coloring sheet or a little work, but whatever it was, I age appropriately, I would give them resources to have their own devotions. And then they started talking about it. And what I didn’t realize at the time, because it was such a simple thing, that was

That was such a simple little thing. But it went my children’s appetite for first of all, getting in God’s word, you know, that the only Christians that our children ever saw in the morning was me and David and we were in God’s word in the morning. Therefore to our kids, that’s what Christians do in the morning. That’s, mean, that’s the kind of platform that we have as parents. It’s unbelievable.

Aaron Smith (31:54)
Yeah. ⁓

David And Leslie Nunnery (32:00)
So we kind of whet their appetite for building that habit, making it a lot easier for them than it is if you start later. ⁓ But also, and this is the part that really blew me away, because we talked about it so freely at the table, just again, just naturally and freely, our kids are unbelievably bold at talking about things of God, talking about their faith. It’s very comfortable for them because they practiced it all along. And so that was one of those

You know, I had been praying that there’s a verse in 2nd Timothy that says that from a child, you knew the scriptures, you knew the word of God. And I prayed, God, let my children know the word of God. so God just kind of impressed that on my heart, which was clearly an answer to that prayer. And what he did with it through the years has just been incredible. But that’s just a simple, simple little step of obedience, like you mentioned before, that had a massive impact on our family and the culture of our family.

Aaron Smith (32:36)
Mm-hmm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (32:59)
I have a story that I tell a lot where I thought I was going to do a really good thing and I went out and bought all of the workbooks around the book, Experiencing God, which is a great book. And I went and got all of the teen and children versions of that book, the workbook, got one for me and Leslie, and we were going to go through this every single night.

until we got through it and we still have those books and they’re blank. They are not filled out very much. There’s a little bit. And, yeah, yeah, it was, that was a lot to bite off. know, then we, ⁓ we pivoted and we decided, you know what, let’s just read a chapter, you know, of songs and then let’s sing two or three songs.

Aaron Smith (33:32)
Nah.

Yeah, those are pretty heady. ⁓

David And Leslie Nunnery (33:57)
And when we read the chapter of Psalms, we go around the room and we say, okay, what did this mean to you? And then I would go last and I would say, this is what I learned from this. And this is connected to this verse and you know that, you know, Jesus talks about, and you know, this is actually a, you know, a prophecy of Jesus Christ coming someday, you know, just, just kind of talking about the verses and the chapter. And then we would sing the songs together.

And it was easy, made a huge impact on the kids. We’re in God’s word every single, you know, almost every single night. There was definitely nights that we missed, but that turned into the family devotions that we were able to actually maintain. it built a habit, which the habit is powerful. And that’s that that really turned into something powerful for us. And when

Aaron Smith (34:45)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (34:56)
I speak on this, it teach them diligently. I’ll actually give that example and I’ll say, this is what we do. And the parents are out there taking notes feverishly on this because they’re struggling with this devotions thing because I think that they, they think that the bar is really high to have family devotions. They got to have, they got to have it all together, you know? And the truth is you don’t, you just open the Bible.

Aaron Smith (35:20)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (35:25)
read a chapter, sing a couple songs with your kids, and then let’s pray and let’s all go to bed. Well, and you know, even beyond those things that are more spiritual in nature, ⁓ some of the best discipleship times that you have are taking rides with your kids. ⁓ David and I talked a lot, you as our kids were growing up, there would usually be one that started acting out or something was just amiss with, we could just tell and

Aaron Smith (35:33)
That thing’s good.

David And Leslie Nunnery (35:55)
Um, you know, as we would start picking up on this, that would be the one that one of us would be like, we need to take them out on a date. So we’d go for a ride. get a milkshake or, you know, go to the store, whatever it was. And those times, just relationships, just asking questions, going for the heart, seeing what’s going on with your child. Um, but, but strategically using that, that car ride time, because you’re not looking eye to eye, you’re sitting side by side. There’s, there’s a little bit of comfort for the child in that.

Aaron Smith (36:03)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (36:25)
⁓ I found that you may have 20 minutes of silly, absolutely nothing profound type conversation that builds to five minutes of actually getting to the heart of what’s going on with your child. But all of that goes so far towards cementing the relationship that you have with them, letting them know that you are available, that you care, that you are the one that they can take their questions to. ⁓ Those kind of things, though not

specifically spiritual in nature, go a long way towards strengthening that platform, building those relationships, and giving you some really good discipleship time.

Aaron Smith (37:04)
You

guys are just hitting the nail on the head with this I’m always encouraging families that the getting in the Word of God and having a family Bible time and having This connection with your kids is not as difficult as it sounds I’m a firm believer in letting the Word of God do the heavy lifting and if someone was to just like if a father was just to sit down open the Word of God or a mom and Just read it without having any answers without having to like expat, you know

David And Leslie Nunnery (37:18)
Mm.

Aaron Smith (37:33)
expository teach through it or, you know, like have everything put together but just say, here’s what the Bible says. I’ve just seen it time and time again in people’s lives. When people come to know the Lord, often it’s the Holy Spirit bringing to their conscience, bringing to the forefront of their mind something that they have already heard about Him, something that someone shared with Him years ago, something that a Sunday school teacher or their mom ⁓ or their dad and so just

filling our children’s minds with the word of God is what we’re doing is we’re preparing the soil of their hearts. We are conditioning it and filling them. And then the more we do it, the more we know. And then we do become smarter and wiser at knowing the word of God, but it doesn’t need to be something overly complicated. What you guys are explaining is incredibly easy. I mean, you got to be brave to do it because it is kind of scary for the first time, especially open the Bible and read it.

David And Leslie Nunnery (38:23)
Mm-hmm.

Aaron Smith (38:31)
Like start in Proverbs, start in Psalms, read from the Gospels. You know, getting your kids to hear the Word of God consistently every day because they’re not going to hear it from the world. The world’s going to twist it. The world’s going to say something else.

David And Leslie Nunnery (38:31)
Yeah.

Yeah. And there’s that genuineness there as well. Right. They’re they’re hearing it directly from you, you know, where Leslie was talking about her mornings with the kids and those mornings were simply, this is what the Lord is teaching me. ⁓ that was really powerful for the kids as well to hear. And I think that that genuineness is super powerful with your kids. You know, it’s, it’s not

Aaron Smith (38:54)
Mm-mm.

Mm-hmm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (39:11)
reading, you know, one of the really powerful theological thinkers. But I think the kids actually don’t want they want you more than they want that. You know, so they want to hear what the Lord is doing in your heart, and they want to hear what you think about the scripture that you just read. They’re not very interested in knowing what an ancient thinker thought about this particular chapter. ⁓ That’s that’s not near as important to them.

It also goes a long way to combat that hypocrisy that you were talking about earlier. If you as parents are sharing how God is teaching you and growing you, it shows your kids that you don’t think that you’ve arrived. You’ve got things to learn. You’ve got ways that you need to grow. And so just bringing them along for the ride, modeling for them the humility of acknowledging that, the humility of saying where you’ve gotten off.

course and how God has shown you the way back. Those are tremendous opportunities to just take what God is teaching you and pour it into them and let them see what Christian growth looks like too. ⁓ So that again, just really is a great tool to combat that hypocrisy that you hear so much about and that can cause such a wedge in relationships between parents and children.

Aaron Smith (40:38)
Amen. I’d like to talk a little bit about those early years of you stepping because you weren’t homeschooling and then you’re like, we’re going to homeschool now. Stepping into homeschooling, what were those early years like? I’m sure they were super easy and went smoothly and you had it all. No mistakes.

David And Leslie Nunnery (40:54)
didn’t make any mistakes in them, no

mistakes whatsoever. ⁓ I actually laugh about it now. We started with a box curriculum with videos, like the whole kit and caboodle, just put it out in front of us. And because the school that I pulled them out of had used that curriculum, and I’m like, this way, if I have to put them back, they’re all set, they have a Mr. B. And I didn’t feel like I was…

Aaron Smith (41:18)
Pretty clever. Makes sense.

David And Leslie Nunnery (41:22)
equipped to teach them. So I thought if they have a video, then they’re getting good teaching. And it took about a month before I realized I’m no more involved in their education than I was before. we just, we’d made a lot of shifts early on in our homeschooling. ⁓ But it is a lot of trial and error. You’ve got to get your feet on the ground. ⁓ I started with schedule. I wrote out the entire year’s lesson plans in ink before the year started. That was foolish.

because it took about 15 minutes and now it’s off track. ⁓ So you’ve got to, you you’re going to make the mistakes that all of us have made very similar mistakes, I think, that have been doing it for a while. ⁓ But you’ve got, I think that’s where the mission, you know, if you have a view of what you’re really trying to do, you recognize that all of these little missteps academically in the action of school, God can redeem those.

These things will all come out in the end. It’ll all work itself out. But I know that this is the best way for me to have these strong relationships with my kids, for me to take these moments. So I laugh at a lot of stuff that we did early on now. But even through that, even through those missteps, even through the guys, is not working, let’s start over, God used that to really strengthen relationships, build the tapestry of our family, like the culture of our family, very flexible.

We laugh a lot because you laugh when you’re growing together. It’s funny stuff a lot of times. ⁓ And God uses all of those missteps. So getting that mission of why you’re doing this homeschooling thing at all, recognizing it’s a tool and not the biggest thing in your life will really help as you’re stumbling along, finding your way, which you will as you’re starting out no matter what.

As you’re stumbling along though, when you recognize this isn’t the biggest thing in my life, this is a tool for the biggest thing, then you can enjoy the ride a whole lot more. You gotta keep the main thing the main thing. Personally, I think that where a lot of families get off is that they forget what their real mission is and they start actually straying from the mission. And they start, for instance, comparing themselves

to other people like on Instagram, or they start comparing themselves to another family that’s in the church, or ⁓ they start thinking that they have to finish a book, you know, or they have to stay on a lesson plan or something like that. And they start getting off of what the actual mission is. And if you keep the main thing, the main thing, it’s amazing how everything else seems to fall in line.

still a little messy, still a little chaotic, but if you have a head of the line, know, everything else falls in line behind it. And when you kind of get this all mixed up up here, or you have the wrong head of the line, it creates chaos behind it.

Aaron Smith (44:29)
That all makes sense. This leads me to my next question about, because you’re talking about the early years and you feel like you didn’t know what you were doing or you were prepared or qualified. That’s what I’m imagining every mom feels. Every family is going to feel this exact same way. I’m sure there’s some out there that are like, they’ve got the degrees. Yeah, yeah, I’m sure there’s those that are out there, but I know that there’s probably people listening right now that are like,

David And Leslie Nunnery (44:50)
Not me, I’m good. That was not me.

Aaron Smith (44:59)
This sounds like something I want to do. have an inkling in my heart. I have something nudging me this way. My child is almost to that age and I don’t know what to do. I don’t feel qualified. I don’t feel ready. I don’t feel emotionally prepared. I don’t feel financially prepared. I don’t know where to start. How do you encourage? What’s the…

What’s the light that you shine on the path of someone that’s in this place?

David And Leslie Nunnery (45:24)
Yeah, I actually wrote a book called Heart School that ⁓ the subtitle is how amazing parents become excellent home educators. But heart schooling is really what David and I have have titled what discipleship focused homeschooling is. You’re going for the hearts. ⁓ And so in that book, I actually lay out the path of how you start. What are the things that are important? There are seven.

attributes in there that you should be looking at, looking for in your life, ⁓ recognizing your call, aligning your thinking. There are exercises in there to help you better understand if you’re actually approaching this missionally, how will it look? So that book really kind of encapsulates a lot of what we talk about at Teach Them Diligently, a lot of what we talk about on the podcast and through other things.

I’m just kind of solidified into one short little guide there. Yeah. That, and that focus on mission is so important. You know, it’s, ⁓ so many families when they start homeschooling, the first thing that they do is they try to figure out what curriculum they’re going to use. They tried, they go and they buy a bunch of curriculum. They go and they buy the planner. They don’t spend any time actually thinking through.

Why do I want to do this? What do I believe about my role in my child’s life? What? does God even have me here to do this? and I don’t mean do this in terms of homeschool. mean, do this in terms of raise them, ⁓ and parent them. Why does, why does God have me here? And you really need to answer that question. You know, what is my mission? That’s where you should start because where you

where things really get chaotic for you in a home school or even in a home in general is that you’ve really kind of lost sight of what your mission is and you need to get to a point where you understand what your mission is. And so that’s one of the reasons why there’s actual exercises in the book that Leslie is talking about is it’s to help you get through and actually write out what your mission is so that you’re able to to actually

act on it ⁓ and build out. You know, we all have the same mission, right? It’s some form of bring your children to Jesus Christ. But every family is different. So everything beyond that could change. You know, you live in a different state. And so maybe you handle things a different way. Your children are all different ages. They there’s different backgrounds. You have different back. I mean, there’s there’s different ways that all that comes about.

But you start with the mission and then you start actually working out from there. Okay, because we have this mission, what do we believe we need to be doing on a daily basis? ⁓ and that’s, that’s kind of the way, you know, that would be my suggestion. First of all, is to work on your mission.

Aaron Smith (48:21)
Thank

The ⁓ encouragement to all you listeners is, I think is very important. Figure out, are you just looking for a solution for education? Or are you trying to figure out what your role is in your home for your children? Why God gave you your kids? And that’s it. It starts by praying and saying, what do you have for me? What do you want from me? How do you want me to operate as a mom, as a dad? To see our roles as more than just caregivers.

We’re not just here, like you said, trying to keep them out of jail or trying to get them, you know, to be functioning adults. You know, it’s much more than that. It’s to lead them to the savior and encourage them to know the one who gives them an eternity, not just, you know, 80 years of life. ⁓ I love that. What are some of the, what are some of the concerns you guys see when it comes to people that are designing homeschool? What are some of the fears that they have?

for their children, for the process that are pretty common that you guys might be able to speak to.

David And Leslie Nunnery (49:33)
Yeah, biggest hurdle I think that so many run into is we call it the enough question. Am I smart enough? Am I patient enough? Am I, you know, am I able to teach high school? All of these. well, basically, yeah. So all of these, you get very focused on what you can do. Am I enough? And like you said, no, but God is and God always

Aaron Smith (49:47)
Yeah, no. That’s my answer.

and

David And Leslie Nunnery (50:02)
will equip you to do what he’s called you to do. You may not, he may keep you on your knees every step of the way where you feel wobbly and you you absolutely understand your need for him. But that some form of that enough question is just a major hurdle for so many people and it keeps people off, you know, the homeschooling playground. They never start because they don’t think that they are.

Aaron Smith (50:13)
Mm-hmm.

David And Leslie Nunnery (50:29)
patient enough, smart enough, whatever you fill in the blank. And for some people it’s even, I like my kids enough? ⁓ Am I able to actually spend that much time? We go head to head, we fight. ⁓ And so instead of, and no, I know, but instead of wanting to work on those relationships and get, like grow through that friction point, that becomes the major stumbling block.

Aaron Smith (50:42)
That’s real honest question to ask.

David And Leslie Nunnery (50:57)
to those that may be feeling like God is calling them to do it. And so my encouragement in that would be work on that relationship. Really find what’s at the root of that and you guys grow together. And you may find that on the other side of it, that is the tightest relationship you have with any of your kids. ⁓ But it’s going to take investment in those situations. Well, I mean, I will say that my belief is that your child wants you.

Aaron Smith (51:27)
Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (51:27)
No matter

what they say or they get angry at you or whatever the circumstances, ⁓ your child wants you and they want you more than anything else. so every child that’s out there is, their relationship with their parents makes a mark on them in some way. And so your child wants you. So the question of

Does your child want a relationship with you or does your child want to spend significant amounts of time with you? I think the answer is yes, because they want you. ⁓ And so that, yeah.

Aaron Smith (52:04)
yeah.

I’m

always surprised with how often I feel terrible as a father and they still like me and they still want to be around me. It’s exactly they want.

David And Leslie Nunnery (52:15)
It’s amazing.

Well, and the cool thing,

all the things that we ⁓ are so hard on ourselves for, I think especially moms and in kind of a homeschooling context, but just moms in general, we’re very hard on ourselves. And it’s been really neat having adult children. The conversation around our table when we’re all gathered now is so fun and so cool. And they reminisce all the time, but they never bring up those things that I

struggle with so much in the moment where I just feel like I’ve screwed up so bad that, know, whatever. Those aren’t the things we talk about. They’re incredibly resilient. They’re incredibly forgiving. And you’ve got this whole body of work of time invested in those relationships and in parenting and discipling your kids. And it is amazing how those times that you’re so afraid of don’t tend to be the ones that come up at your dinner table when

Now they, our kids now will tell us all kinds of stuff we didn’t know in real time. So I’m learning all kinds of things that happened. It’s confession time to be honest with you. They feel like it’s necessary. They just have to come clean with us now. The statute of limitations is over.

Aaron Smith (53:30)
I want to know actually, I

actually want to know because you have children that are totally on the other side of this. They went through a whole lifetime of homeschooling and you guys teaching them and ⁓ what are some of the stories, like you said, I actually think that’s really encouraging that ⁓ our children aren’t going to necessarily remember all of the mistakes. I know they will, but they remember the good things and what are some of the things that they say now that surprise you? You’re like,

David And Leslie Nunnery (53:36)
Yeah. Yeah.

Aaron Smith (53:58)
I don’t remember, I didn’t know you remember that or I don’t remember that and that’s really encouraging that you do. What are some things that your kids say that surprise you?

David And Leslie Nunnery (54:04)
Yeah.

One of the things that ⁓ just blew me away, my daughter had just gotten married and she and I, I do birthday dates with all my kids, even still. So on their birthday, the girls and I go get a hotel. do something fun and the boys and I spend a whole day together. So we have birthday dates. And on my daughter’s birthday date last year, ⁓

She had just spent the evening with a group of other young married friends, told them that she was spending the day with me. They were all shocked that ⁓ I would still spend time with her. And she just started talking about how ⁓ she couldn’t believe that the tightness of our family was shocking to them. That the fact that we enjoyed being together so much was surprising to her friends. That was mind blowing to her because that was just her reality.

And as she told me that, I honestly just wanted to weep. was like, God, this is such a grace to us that you have woven these relationships so tightly that even though they’ve moved on, even though they’re building their own lives, we still have that kind of platform in their lives. And that is just one of the most amazing things that I’ve ever been told in my life. Yeah. They’re at our house all the time.

They are. It’s good.

Aaron Smith (55:30)
Well,

I genuinely want that for my family. it’s an interesting dynamic. It’s like, if you spend less time with them, they want less time. You spend more time with them, they want more time. You have a whole lifetime of teaching them and being with them every day, all day. then now they’re adults and like, I’m going to just spend time with my parents. That’s what I want. Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (55:44)
Yep. They just keep coming. Yeah. Yeah.

I,

it’s so fun. I actually believe that the less time you spend with them, they, they actually do want to spend that extra time with you. They, they have a desire for that because I mean, like this in this, the story that Leslie was telling it just, just told the girls on the other side that were from the other families, they were actually jealous. Yeah. They wished that that was their reality.

Aaron Smith (56:17)
It was that time.

David And Leslie Nunnery (56:21)
They want to spend time with their parents. and, you know, hear all these stories about, ⁓ well, you know, going to public school, you hear all these stories about these teenagers wanting to have their mom or dad drop them, you know, a half mile away from the school so they could walk. So they didn’t see them, you know, they didn’t want to have mom and dad around. hear all these stories. I think it’s just cover.

Aaron Smith (56:30)
Mm-hmm.

Yeah, it’s an happy scene.

Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (56:49)
I really

believe it’s cover because I think that these kids, really genuinely long for time with their kid, with their parents. They want to have individual one-on-one dates with, you know, with their parents that they, they want to go out with dad and they want to go out with mom. want to, they want to have that time, even in families where there’s nine kids, right? Each one of those children, they want to have their time with mom and dad. Yeah.

Aaron Smith (57:12)
Yeah, we got six. ⁓ Every single one of them want their own

snuggle time every single night. They want their own date night. want that. They all want it. Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (57:19)
Yep.

And leverage it. Leverage it. so much identity and emotional security that comes from a parent-child relationship. And so it is, again, just part of that privilege that God has given us as parents. We can help our kids so much understand who they are, understand who God created them to be, and give them just an emotional stability that is seriously lacking in our world today.

just by being intentional in the way that we parent them.

Aaron Smith (57:52)
Hmm.

would say if we were to take anything away from this conversation, ⁓ just myself, I’m thinking discipleship, time. My kids want time. They want more time. They’ll never get enough time. And then like mission, our mission is raising our children to know Christ. And so I just I really thank you for what you guys are doing. The conference you guys have, teach them diligently. You guys are primarily on the Midwest East Coast, right? Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (58:00)
Mm.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We

have two events in 2026, Pigeon Forge, Tennessee. And yeah, that’s May 7th to the 9th. And then Branson, Missouri ⁓ is May 14th to the 16th. So it was the very next weekend. So that’s a pretty busy, know, May is pretty busy for us.

Aaron Smith (58:25)
That’s the one we did last year. It so good. Yeah.

I absolutely recommend everyone to go check this out and if you can make it. It’s totally family friendly. There was so many people that had all of their kids. My wife and I went and it just me and her and our baby. But we wished we had all of our kids with us because we saw all the families there. And I was like, man, we should have brought all the kids. This is crazy. But we were from the West Coast and we would have had to a lot of plane tickets. And it was nice having a date with my wife for a few days.

David And Leslie Nunnery (59:06)
Yep.

Absolutely. Yeah. You know what, man? We get that a lot too. we get a lot of husbands and wives that just decide that rather than turn it into a family vacation, they’re going to turn it into a, a retreat for husband and wife. And so they’ll come to pigeon Forge or they’ll come to Branson and they’ll rent a cabin and they’ll stay there for three or four days, you know, and then they’ll come to the conference and that’s

Aaron Smith (59:33)
Totally awesome, worth it.

David And Leslie Nunnery (59:36)
That is a great time as well. We love that. We love hearing that.

Aaron Smith (59:40)
My wife begged me to ask you guys, said, do you have any questions? She’s like, I have one question. Are they going to do one on the West Coast? We have a lot of families here that wish they could have gone. have like our whole community, all homeschools and lots of children. So we are wondering, are you going to do a West Coast trip?

David And Leslie Nunnery (59:48)
Nah!

You know, man, we have looked at the West Coast so many times. and it’s a hard thing. ⁓ and there’s, there’s, ⁓ there’s, where do you have it? You know? ⁓ and we like to have a concentration of people that would love to come to our event kind of in the area. And so you think about the West coast and where that would be, you know,

Aaron Smith (1:00:09)
It is hard, yeah.

Thinking like Eugene, maybe. Yeah.

David And Leslie Nunnery (1:00:28)
Eugene. And plus

we are utterly unfamiliar with the West Coast, so maybe we can talk off camera and you can give us some ideas about that because we really would love, we get requests for it regularly. We’re just kind of at a loss. There you go. Help us.

Aaron Smith (1:00:35)
Absolutely.

My wife was like, tell them we’ll help them. Yeah.

Well, that’s awesome. I really appreciate you guys giving me your time. Share again, where can people find you and even check out the conference.

David And Leslie Nunnery (1:00:54)
So that would be ⁓ teachthemdiligently.net. You can actually Google Teach Them Diligently and you’re gonna find us, we’ll be on the front page. We’ll be opening up registrations for Pigeon Forge and Branson ⁓ in mid September. We’ve also got a membership platform called Teach Them Diligently 365. You can see that at teachthemdiligently365.com.

And you can buy a membership to that right now. And what that includes it’s, it’s a audio archive of every single session that has been given at a teach them diligently event. But then you also have courses and they have messaging and communities and all kinds of stuff for moms and dads to get together and talk about the different problems that they have. And then also there’s teaching. ⁓ Leslie goes in there on a regular basis.

and to do mom’s nights and that kind of stuff, Q and A’s and yeah. What else for 365?

Aaron Smith (1:01:59)
Well, that

365 is really important because it’s impossible to hit all of the sessions. You just cannot. There’s like 20 sessions at a time. You’re going to one. And so it’s really important to do that membership so you can get all those episodes or all the audio for all of the sessions you missed.

David And Leslie Nunnery (1:02:09)
Right.

Yep.

Yep. It’s really beneficial. ⁓ It’s probably my favorite thing that we do actually because it gives me the platform to invest in more, ⁓ specifically more women’s lives and mentor and disciple them to be able to, for them to go turn around and disciple their children. So I do love Teach Them Diligently 365.

Aaron Smith (1:02:39)
Awesome. Well, I’ll make sure that those links are for sure in the show notes so everyone can find them. ⁓ David, Leslie, I really appreciate you guys’ time and I love the ministry you guys have. So I just pray that God continues to bless you in doing all that.

David And Leslie Nunnery (1:02:51)
Thank you so much. was a great conversation. Thanks Aaron.